HOw many horses do 325i and ///M3 have?????

[frolf]

beemerworld is spot on in the measurement. that is why in most automotive magazines they will indicate whether their numbers are euro or us.

back when i first joined this board i think the differences in SAE hp and DIN hp was my first question. DIN indicates a european meassurement, and how they measure horsepower is different (only slightly) than how we do in the US. The 343bhp euro m3 and 333 us m3 have exactly the same amount of power. becasue that 343 is DIN.

http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/horsepwr.html

that is a pretty good, basic description of the differences in measurement.

 

[lpquick]

beemerworld, I agree with everything you've said except about the castrol syntec, it's not the best, it's OK. I would rather use Amsoil, or Redline, considering the haze Castrol has put out over being pure synthetic oil which it isn't any longer, yet using lawyer jargon, they can successfully argue that it is. It's like Clinton saying he didn't have sex with that woman. or he didn't inhail. No wonder this fine country is going to crap. Try explaining the difference to your kids some time!....

 

[jammer]

beemerworld:
As I understand it, the new M3 requires 10-60 weight oil, available from the dealer only,so far.
Is this the same oil that is required for the M5? He had the BMW dealer do the change and did not say what they put in. They could have put in regular stuff as far as I know! I will question him further!
I have been using Castrol Syntec for years, no problems. Now I am hearing that it is NOT 100% synthetic! Is this true? I use Redline in my tranny and differential. Is there a 100% synthetic engine oil that is reasonably priced?

 

[Beemerworld]

Oil

I did not say that Castrol Syntec is the best. I said the synthetic oil is the best you can use! But remember there are oils which are part/synthetic and fully/synthetic. Also the BMW oil dealer sells is actually a Castrol syntec and that oil has been here for a long time. I use LUBRO MOLY which is probably the best around with good prices.

10-60 is mostly used for turbocharged/supercharged cars but of course it is good for any high performance engine.

Read more about the oils here:http://www.liqui-moly.de/web/lmhomeen.nsf/pages/index_flash

 

[Beemerworld]

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[lpquick]

Sorry beemerworld, I misunderstood your previous response and thought you said syntec. I can say the same great things about AMSOIL, which also has an extensive line up of quality lubricants and a racing heritage.

 

[brahtw8]

DIN indicates a european meassurement, and how they measure horsepower is different (only slightly) than how we do in the US. The 343bhp euro m3 and 333 us m3 have exactly the same amount of power. becasue that 343 is DIN.

You are right about the difference between SAE and DIN horsepower in the US and Europe.

However, there is a minor power difference in the US and European models. The difference in measurement accounts for about 5 hp. of the 343 vs. 333, the other 5 is an actual power difference owing to more restrictive emissions standards in the US.

Also, although the 325i was at one point the top of the E36 line, and has always been the bottom of the E46 US models, the E46 325i is more of a child of the E36 325i than the old 318i. The 325s share the same basic M50 engine design. The power loss of the E46 vs. E36 is related to more restrictive emissions standards and tuning the engine to increase low end torque.

 

[moomoo325i]

so a bmw325i haz 192hp and a ///M3 haz 321hp but how much ""TOROUQE"" do they have?????????? bye the way thankzzzzz for the info about many horsee it hazz!!!!

 

[brahtw8]

so a bmw325i haz 192hp and a ///M3 haz 321hp but how much ""TOROUQE"" do they have?????????? bye the way thankzzzzz for the info about many horsee it hazz!!!!

The E36 325i has 189 hp. and 181 ft/lbs of torque at 4700 RPM.

The E46 323i has 170 hp. and 180 ft/lbs of torque at 3500 RPM.

The E46 325i has 184 hp. and 175 ft/lbs of torque at 3500 RPM.

The 321 hp. M3 is a european E36 M3 Evolution (3.2 liter). It made 321 hp. at 258 ft/lbs of torque. The 3.0 liter european E36 M3 made 286 hp. at 235 ft/lbs. of torque.

The US E36 M3 3.0 made 240hp/225 ft/lbs. Later 3.2 liter cars were 240 hp/236 ft/lbs.

The E46 M3 makes 333 hp. and 268 ft/lbs (or is it 271)

 

[moomoo325i]

HOw much u askin for it ????/ holla back

 

[mikev]

Hear ya! I know, not about winning, just kidding!!
Only wish I had the 321hp motor!!
While we're on the subject, does the 2001 M5 require the same oil as the E46 M3(expensive!)
A friend just bought one. The dealer is charging him $110 for an oil change!!

If you bought your M5 in Europe and want that fabulous BMW waranty you MUST use 10w60 Oil sadly The only easy place to get it (over here atleast) is from BMW themselves. and they use castrol.

 

[brahtw8]

HOw much u askin for it ????/ holla back

All you need is here:

http://www.bmwboard.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3857

 

[Ghost]

Over the years of reading magazines on BMW’s I noticed the same difference in hp. One article that I read was upgrading a M3 and the master mechanic made a comment on how the emissions restrictions (intake configurations-major difference in the E36 slight now if any and catalytic converters) of the U.S. drop the horsepower somewhat.

 

[brahtw8]

With respect to the E36 M3s, the european version has a completely different engine, with individual throttle bodies for each cylinder. The US E36 M3 engine is much closer to the normal 325i engine than the European M3 engine. Still a great engine, with lots of torque, but not as advanced or costly as the euro engine, which was the point of going with the US engine. We almost missed out on the E36 M3, and would not have gotten it any other way.

 

[Beemerworld]

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